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Five9, Inc. EBITDA jumped on 566% and EBITDA Margin increased on 5.4 pp from 1.3% to 6.7%

02/19/2019 • About Five9, Inc. ($FIVN) • By InTwits

Five9, Inc. reported 2018 financial results today. Overall the company's long term financial model is characterised by the following facts:
  • Five9, Inc. is a fast growth stock: 2018 revenue growth was 28.7%, 5 year revenue CAGR was 25.1% at 2018 ROIC 3.2%
  • EBITDA Margin is expanding: 6.7% in 2018 vs. 1.3% in 2017 vs. -28.2% in 2014
  • Five9, Inc. spends a lot for Stock Based Compensation (SBC): average SBC/Revenue for 2014-2018 is 8.0%. Average EBITDA Margin for the same period was -2.5%. In 2018 SBC/Revenue was even higher: 11.1%
  • Five9, Inc. has low CAPEX intensity: 5 year average CAPEX/Revenue was 1.5%. At the same time it's a lot of higher than industry average of 13.3%.
  • CAPEX is quite volatile: $9m in 2018, $3m in 2017, $1m in 2016, $1m in 2015, $1m in 2014
  • In the last 5 years the company invested considerably less than D&A: $15m vs. $41m
  • The company has potentially unprofitable business model: ROIC is 3.2%
  • It operates with high leverage: Net Debt/EBITDA is 7.3x while industry average is -2.2x
Below you can find a comprehensive analysis of the key data driving the company's performance and the stock price.

Revenue and profitability


The company's Revenue surged on 28.7%. Revenue growth showed acceleration in 18Q4 - it increased 30.6% YoY. Having declining revenue the company managed to increase EBITDA margin. EBITDA Margin increased on 3.9 pp from 18.2% to 22.1% in 2018. EBITDA Margin stuck to a growing trend at 8.2 pp per annum in the last 5 years.

Gross Margin increased slightly on 1.1 pp from 58.5% to 59.6% in 2018. Gross Margin stuck to a growing trend at 3.0 pp per annum in 2014-2018. SG&A as a % of Revenue decreased on 4.7 pp from 47.8% to 43.1% in 2018. SG&A as a % of Revenue followed a declining trend at -3.9 pp per annum in 2014-2018. Stock Based Compensation (SBC) as a % of Revenue increased on 3.4 pp from 7.7% to 11.1% in 2018. During 2014-2018 SBC as a % of Revenue bottomed in 2016 at 5.9% and was growing since that time.

Net Income margin increased on 4.4 pp from -4.5% to -0.086% in 2018. Net Income margin followed a growing trend at 8.9 pp per annum in 2014-2018.

Investments (CAPEX, working capital and M&A)


The company's CAPEX/Revenue was 3.6% in 2018. CAPEX/Revenue increased on 2.7 pp from 0.87% in 2015 to 3.6% in 2018. For the last three years the average CAPEX/Revenue was 1.9%. To fuel its fast growth Five9, Inc. invested a large share of EBITDA (53.6%) to CAPEX. During the last 5 years CAPEX as a % of Revenue bottomed in 2016 at 0.70% and was growing since that time.

Accounts receivable as a % of Revenue showed almost no change in 2018. Accounts payable as a % of Revenue increased slightly on 1.6 pp from 5.2% to 6.7% in 2018.

Return on investment


The company operates at low but positive ROIC (3.2%) and negative ROE (-0.2%). ROIC increased on 9.9 pp from -6.7% to 3.2% in 2018. ROE jumped on 23.0 pp from -23.2% to -0.23% in 2018. ROIC grew at 14.7 pp per annum in 2014-2018.

Leverage (Debt)


Debt level is 7.3x Net Debt / EBITDA and 12.0x Debt / EBITDA. Net Debt / EBITDA jumped on 15.9x from -8.6x to 7.3x in 2018. Debt jumped on 345% while cash jumped on 18.8%.

Five9, Inc. has questionable short term financial stability: Interest coverage ratio (ICR) is only 0.7x. Five9, Inc. has no short term refinancing risk: cash is higher than short term debt (1,232.3%).

Average interest expence charged on company's debt was 4.9% in 2018.

Management team


Five9, Inc.'s CEO Rowan M Trollope is a founder and has spent 1 year with the company. CEO total compensation was $18,327,867 in 2018 which included $746,166 salary. Five9, Inc.'s CFO is Barry Zwarenstein. Barry Zwarenstein has 1 year tenure at the company.

Insider ownership is 3.0%. Insider ownership didn't change in 2018.

The company has 983 employees. The number of employees surged on 14.3%. Average revenue per employee in 2018 was $262,120 and it surged on 12.6%.

Financial and operational results


FY ended 12/31/2018

Five9, Inc. ($FIVN) key annual financial indicators

mln. $201420152016201720182018/2017
P&L
Revenue103.1128.9162.1200.2257.728.7%
Gross Profit48.469.495.2117.1153.631.2%
SG&A61.967.977.895.7111.016.0%
EBITDA-29.1-13.81.82.617.3566.3%
EBIT-35.5-21.2-6.5-5.77.0
Interest expence4.24.74.23.510.2195.2%
Tax0.10.10.10.30.311.9%
Net Income-37.8-25.8-11.9-9.0-0.2
Stock Based Compensation6.87.79.615.328.585.6%
Balance Sheet
Cash58.358.558.168.981.918.8%
Accounts Receivable8.310.613.919.024.830.2%
Accounts Payable4.22.63.44.37.063.3%
Short Term Debt8.024.77.07.06.6-4.9%
Long Term Debt39.721.938.839.8201.3406.3%
Cash flow
Capex1.01.11.12.79.3249.5%
Ratios
Revenue growth22.5%25.0%25.8%23.5%28.7%
EBITDA growth21.6%-52.7%-113.4%40.4%566.3%

Gross Margin47.0%53.8%58.7%58.5%59.6%1.1%
EBITDA Margin-28.2%-10.7%1.1%1.3%6.7%5.4%
EBIT Margin-34.5%-16.4%-4.0%-2.9%2.7%5.6%
SG&A, % of revenue60.0%52.7%48.0%47.8%43.1%-4.7%
SBC, % of revenue6.5%6.0%5.9%7.7%11.1%3.4%
Net Income Margin-36.6%-20.0%-7.3%-4.5%-0.1%4.4%
CAPEX, % of revenue1.0%0.9%0.7%1.3%3.6%2.3%

ROIC-60.6%-25.8%-8.7%-6.7%3.2%9.9%
ROE-76.0%-41.9%-23.2%-0.2%23.0%
Net Debt/EBITDA-6.7x-8.6x7.3x15.9x
Interest coverage ratio (ICR)0.7x
Interest expence / Average debt8.7%10.0%9.1%7.5%4.9%-2.6%
People
Insider ownership3.0%3.0%3.0%3.0%3.0%0.0%
Employees63069278086098314.3%
Revenue/Employee, th. $16418620823326212.6%

Five9, Inc. ($FIVN) key quoterly financial indicators

mln. $18Q118Q218Q318Q4 YoY change
P&L
Revenue59616572 25.3%28.1%30.4%30.6%
EBITDA2339 -7.4%309.0%
Net Income-1-2-14 -241.2%
Balance Sheet
Cash811668082 42.9%190.8%25.7%18.8%
Short Term Debt7777 5.1%9.6%5.6%-4.9%
Long Term Debt40198200201 2.6%409.2%406.6%406.3%
Ratios
Gross Margin58.1%59.4%59.9%60.8% 0.5%1.9%0.8%1.2%
EBITDA Margin 3.7% 4.3% 5.1% 12.6% 8.7%6.2%-2.1%8.6%
Net Income Margin -1.0% -3.3% -2.0% 5.2% 10.1%5.1%-3.8%6.3%

Peers in Application Software


Below you can find Five9, Inc. benchmarking vs. other companies in Application Software industry. It's shown for the period of 5 years for the key financial metrics. Each table has median value for all the companies in the industry together with individual financial data of the top-5 companies in the industry by particular financial metric.

Top companies by Revenue growth, %

Top 5 FY2014 FY2015 FY2016 FY2017 FY2018
nFusz Inc ($FUSZ)433.3%
CloudCommerce Inc ($CLWD)-38.1%247.6%40.9%301.1%
Seven Stars Cloud Group, Inc. ($SSC)134.7%663.8%310.3%161.7%
Aurora Mobile Limited ($JG)304.9%150.8%
Intelligent Systems Corporation ($INS)14.2%71.0%12.2%119.0%
 
Median (151 companies)-43.3%13.5%13.6%14.8%15.2%
Five9, Inc. ($FIVN)25.0%25.8%23.5%28.7%


Top companies by Gross margin, %

Top 5 FY2014 FY2015 FY2016 FY2017 FY2018
Skkynet Cloud Systems Inc ($SKKY)99.7%97.4%98.0%97.6%96.5%
hopTo Inc ($HPTO)91.8%87.8%95.9%98.2%95.4%
Aware, Inc. ($AWRE)75.4%87.2%90.3%94.6%92.3%
Alteryx, Inc. ($AYX)77.5%80.5%81.3%83.4%91.0%
Aspen Technology, Inc. ($AZPN)86.5%88.7%89.7%90.2%89.9%
 
Median (150 companies)63.4%61.9%64.2%64.6%66.1%
Five9, Inc. ($FIVN)47.0%53.8%58.7%58.5%59.6%


Top companies by EBITDA margin, %

Top 5 FY2014 FY2015 FY2016 FY2017 FY2018
Aspen Technology, Inc. ($AZPN)34.5%42.2%46.0%45.2%43.3%
ANSYS, Inc. ($ANSS)45.9%45.8%45.1%41.9%41.4%
Paycom Software, Inc. ($PAYC)15.1%19.5%35.1%34.4%35.9%
j2 Global, Inc. ($JCOM)41.6%40.6%41.7%36.5%35.7%
Adobe Inc. ($ADBE)17.5%25.9%31.2%34.2%35.3%
 
Median (152 companies)-10.1%-9.5%-5.3%-4.2%-3.3%
Five9, Inc. ($FIVN)-28.2%-10.7%1.1%1.3%6.7%


Top companies by CAPEX/Revenue, %

Top 5 FY2014 FY2015 FY2016 FY2017 FY2018
TimefireVR Inc ($TFVR)0.0%350.5%4.3%1,021.9%
MGT Capital Investments Inc ($MGTI)0.0%36.5%221.4%129.8%344.5%
Integrated Ventures Inc ($INTV)199.9%
ShotSpotter, Inc. ($SSTI)18.3%28.9%27.1%24.3%
Ellie Mae, Inc. ($ELLI)12.3%20.6%16.7%21.1%19.4%
 
Median (153 companies)2.8%2.7%3.0%2.3%2.4%
Five9, Inc. ($FIVN)1.0%0.9%0.7%1.3%3.6%


Top companies by ROIC, %

Top 5 FY2014 FY2015 FY2016 FY2017 FY2018
InsPro Technologies Corp ($ITCC)-558.9%127.4%
Manhattan Associates, Inc. ($MANH)64.8%78.7%99.3%102.5%80.9%
Intuit Inc. ($INTU)34.2%23.7%52.1%72.6%66.8%
Aspen Technology, Inc. ($AZPN)133.4%58.1%
Paycom Software, Inc. ($PAYC)16.7%30.5%75.4%51.1%47.5%
 
Median (179 companies)-14.2%-11.2%-9.8%-11.8%-10.4%
Five9, Inc. ($FIVN)-60.6%-25.8%-8.7%-6.7%3.2%


Top companies by Net Debt / EBITDA

Top 5 FY2014 FY2015 FY2016 FY2017 FY2018
Upland Software, Inc. ($UPLD)16.4x115.6x16.7x
Nuance Communications, Inc. ($NUAN)7.9x5.7x5.3x7.1x15.2x
Asure Software Inc ($ASUR)3.4x4.5x3.6x9.5x14.5x
SS&C Technologies Holdings, Inc. ($SSNC)1.7x7.3x4.6x3.1x8.5x
Avaya Holdings Corp. ($AVYA)7.4x
 
Median (69 companies)-1.4x-1.0x-0.9x-0.8x-0.7x
Five9, Inc. ($FIVN)-6.7x-8.6x7.3x